Also it may sound weird but i use tiny bits of dried plums as well that give it sweet as well so i saute onions , celery , carrots .
i wait for it to cool down a little .
them mix beef and turkey together and i add the saut mix ( onions etc ) cuts a hand full of plums in tiny pieces .
Add 1 egg ( you could by pass that if you want ) tons of fresh cut herbs , concentrate tomatoes .
and i put everything into a cake ceramic pan and in the oven until it reach the temp needed
should have pics somewhere to show the result let me see if i can dowload them